Wednesday, September 8, 2010

Core D, Week 3

Last week we learned how Dr. Goldberger used observations, inferences, hypothesis, and the scientific method to solve the problem of Pellegra.  This week we conducted our own investigation to test a new headache medicine.  
We simulated a clinical trial using two kinds of pink medicine; one was the "new medicine" and the other was a placebo or "fake medicine". Half the class received the placebo or control and the other half received the new medicine being tested.  The results of this clinical trial revealed 3 possible outcomes; the headache is not cured, the headaches is cured, or the headache is cured, but you suffer side effects. Use your lab report and histograms to help answer the questions below.


Key words
  • Clinical Trial- a test performed on volunteers, typically to test medicines, before the products are made available to the public.
  • Control- a standard used for comparison that is not changed throughout the experiment.
  • Placebo- a control that simulates a medicine, but doesn't have the active ingredient.
  • Sample Size- the amount of people or things being tested. Larger sample sizes give more accurate data.
  • Trade-Off- something given up for something gained.
Respond to both A and B by Tuesday 9/14
A) I would like for you to reflect or summarize what we've learned from activity 3, Testing Medicines. Please include all 5 of the above key words into your comments. Your response should touch on the key themes highlighted above and should be at least a paragraph in length.


B)  Use this link to investigate types of clinical trials being conducted at the University of Cincinnati.  http://www.uc.edu/ucresearch/clinicaltrials.html  Go to General information and click on "types of trials". Summarize what happens at each of the 3 phases in your comments.

25 comments:

Jordan W said...
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Anonymous said...

core D Tyler R.

We did a clinical trial with headache medicine. With half of the class having a placebo which is a fake medicine or a sugar pill. We had a sample size to so that way if we had side-effects they would not be severe. And that way there is enough for everyone.
We had control to show that the headache changed,stayed the same, or got worse. We learned what a trade-off is. It is something given up for something gained

jonathangraessle said...

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Ryan N said...

What we've learned from testing medicenes is in a clinical trial there is a control medicine that works and a placebo that doesnt actually work. Both people will gwt a sample size of the medicine and they both trade-off medicine to see which one works.

In the first trial they see what how much a dose should be and if it's safe to take and takes 100 people to work.In trial two they study the side-affects of the drug more carefully.In trial three they see how good the drug works and studys the side-affects even more closly and carefully.

Ryan Frondorf said...

A.)In activity 3 we used 5 key words. The first key word was Clinical trial and this was used in our lab because our teacher tested our class. The control in our experiment was the Placebo. The Sample size in our experiment was the whole school. The trade-off in our lab was the medicine didn't work but we gained that it isn't safe to sell.
B.)A Phase 1 trial is a usually the first time a new drug is being used is given to people. People in the phase 1 trial get different doses.Phase 1 trials are the risket one and usually take the shortest. The trial is used to see if the drug is safe on people.In Phase 2 trial more people are given the drug to study the side-effect.There are a couple of hundred include in the test.In a Phase trial 3 thousands are given the drug to see if it works and if it cause problems to people for long periods of time. Reasearchers look for weird side-effects.

Indigo,H said...

Our class did a trial with "head ache medicine" half of us got the placebo(fake)We used two diffrent drinks and was asked if the first or the secound was better. if the secound was better we got better if it wasnt we didnt

B) phase one is first time a new drug is given to people after tests are done on animals

phase two more people are given the drugs to see if it works and to study the side-effects better there may be hundreds of people in this trial.

phase 3 thousands of people take it and they see how it reacts for a long period of time.

Michael, F said...

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Devin M said...

A)In activity 3, I learned about taking clinical trials. The whole class as the sample size of 25 people had a head ach to start with which was the control of the experiment.


B)There was a trade-off for the experiment. Half of the people got side effects of taking the medicine and the other half didn’t but everyone’s head achs went away. and If the drug works then they can put it out on the market for people to use as long as it is ok for people to use and they wont get sick and die off of it.

jonathangraessle said...

This week we performed a clinical trial for medacin but used lemonaid to represent it. Some people got the actual medacin and some got the placebo.We had a good sample size because we used a total of four classes.

Nate E said...

a. this week i learnd that in a clinacal trial half of the people use a placebo and the rest got the real medican the non-control, the amount of people tested is know as the sample size,the trade off was that when your headach went away you had side affects.

b. there are 3 types of phases 1-is the drug safe 2-does it work 3-what if many people take it. you will take a exit interview when you leave.trials can last a day to a year

Kelsey16 said...

Kelsey Rankin Core C

A)We learned that in a clinical Trial not everybody gets the medican they get a shuger pill called Placebo.The sample size is always control.People also have trade-off. They trade a sickness for healing.

B)In phase one, what happens is usualy people will do the test once it is tested on animals. A drug in this phase has not been tested on many people. The trial is short and involves less then one hundred people. In phase two if the drug is safe in phase two, more people are given the drug and are to be stuiedfor the side effects. Reachers try to find out if the drug has good effects and continues testings it's safty. This trial is about from a few months to a few years. in phase three thousands are given the drug to see how well it works when people take it for a longer time. They look for rare side effects. most drugs are approved after the third test.

mollyO said...

Molly O. Core D:
This week we performed a clinical trial with the whole class to see if the head ache medicine would cure us. Half of the class got the placebo(the fake medicine that also helps get data on the REAL medicine)and the other half of the class got the "new medicine" we used the control of the medicine to find out the data. The whole class was the sample size for our experiment. We traded off the amount of sick people v.s. the amount of people who got better.


Phase 1) is usually the first time the new drug is given to people after its been tested on animals. Its done to figure out if the new drug is safe for human use,and they also figure out what the dosage should be.

Phase 2)It finds out that the drug is safe for human use. More people are given the drug to see if it works and they still watch the side effects more carefully. They continue testing the safety and phase two can last from a few months too a few years.

Phase 3)The trial is started. Many people sometimes thousands are given the drug to see how good it workds and if it causes any problems when its taken for a long period of time. They look for RARE side effects. Most drugs will go through all three phases before they are approved.

Haylee K said...
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Haylee K said...

In science we did clinical trial (lab experiment) to test medicines for headaches. Half of the class used the real medicine where as the other half used the placebo. We only used a sample size so if anything bad were to happen like side effets they wouldnt be to extreme, we had control to see if the medicines worked or didnt work. The tradeoff for this lesson would be that you give time to test medicine to see if it will work. So that way when you do have a headache yo will know what medicine to use.

B) phase one is first time a new drug is given to people after tests are done on animals

Phase to is where they study the side effect to make sure it works.

phase 3 thousands of people take it and they see how it works for a long period of time.

Adam S said...

A. We did a clincal trial on a headache medicine. We had two groups, a control group and a test group. The control group had the placebo, a fake medicine, and the test group had the real medicine. We had a sample size so there wouldn't be any severe side effects. We also learned what a trade-off is; it is giving something up for something else.

B. Phase 1: The drug is tested on people for the first time and is very risky. The test is 2-3 months long and done on 100 or less people.
Phase 2: The drug is tested to see if it works properly. It can take a few months to a few years and is tested on 100-1000 people.
Phase 3: If the drug is working properly it is then tests on thousands of people. If it works over many years it then is ready to be sold in stores.

chrisflinch23 said...

A.) In activity 3 we simulated a Clinical Trial, and learned how scientists use a control, a placebo, and the medicine. Each group got a sample size of the medicine so the side effects wouldn't be too serious. A trade-off would be that your headache went away but you had side effects.

B.) Phase 1 trial tests if the drug is safe to use on people, the drug is tested after the drug is tested on animals. It is short (takes place for about 2 or 3 months) and it doesn't use a lot of people (less than 100 people). The people in this trial are given different amounts of doses to see which dosage is safe. A phase 1 trial is riskier than phase 2 or 3 trials.Phase 2 trial is to see if the drug works, and the possible side-effects are looked at more closely.In this type of trial, researchers try to find out if the drug has a good effect and continue testing its safety. Phase 2 trials can last from a few months to a few years. Phase 3 trials are tested to see if the medicine works for a long period of time, several months to years, and are tested on thousand of people. Researchers look for rare side effects which are seen in a only a few people and only after someone takes the drug for several months or years. All the drugs that go through all three phases have to be FDA approved.

lara.Roberts said...

In activity three we took part as a class in a Clinical Trail. We recieved a Sample Size of headache medicine while the other half recieved a sample size of the Placebo thinking it was the real thing. We used a Control in order to see if the headache medicine really worked, and we Traded-off information to see if the medicine was worth selling.
Phase One: is studied to find out what is the best amout to give people, the people who are in the clinical trial are often given diffrent amounts. This phase is done after it is studied on animals, it is not studied on many people, so much is not known about it. This trial is the riskiest trial and are usually short. It is also used to see how safe the drug is. a Phase one clinical trial is about two-three months long.
Phase Two: more people are given the drug to see how it works and the side-effects that go along with it. In this trial researchers see the effect and to see if it can be continued and tested saftly. Phase two can be researched from a few months to a few years.
Phase Three: many people by the thousands are given the drug to see how well it works and if it causes any side-effects when people take it for a long period of time.

Jonathon D said...

A.) In activity 3 we simulated a clinical trial. We learned how scientists use control, placebo and medicines. Each group got a sampe size of the medicine so the possible side effects wouldnt be so bad. A trade off would be that your headache went away but you feel dizy now.

B.) B.)A Phase 1 trial is usually the first time a new drug is being used and is being given to people. People in the phase 1 trial get different doses of the medicine. Phase 1 trials are the mosy dangourus and the shortest. The trial is used to see if the drug is safe on people.
In Phase 2 trials more people are given the drug so they cn study the side effects. There are about a couple hundred people included in the pase two trial.
In a Phase 3 trial thousands of people are given the drug to see if it works and if it causes problems to people for long periods of time. Reasearchers also look for weird side effects during the phase three part of the trial.
Jonathon Deifel Core D

Katelyn E said...

A) In Activity 3 we did a clinical trial with headache medicine. Half the class got the "medicine", the other half got the Placebo or Control. We talked about Sample size and Trade-offs also.
Sample size is where if the sample size is bigger you will get more accurate data. Trade-offs are when you have to give something up but in return get a different thing inreturn.
B)Phase 1 Is the test after the drug was tested on animals. The drug is given to EVERYONE in this phase to see wat the best dose is. Invalves less then 100 people.
Phase 2 Is the testing on more people to see its effects and side effects more carefully.
Phase 3 Is where its given to more people for long period of time to look for rare side effects.

schinkal said...

Core D Nick Schinkal
We used a Clinical trial with a hadache medicane. Half of the class took the real medicane and the other half took a placebo. We used sample size so if we still got the headache it wouldn't be as bad.

In the first trial they see what how much a dose should be and if it's safe to take and takes 100 people to work.In trial two they study the side-affects of the drug more carefully.In trial three they see how good the drug works and studies the side-affects even more closley and carefully.

MeganH said...

A.) We did a clinical trial to test 'medicine' for headaches. We did not know if we were in the control group or not. The one's who had the placebo didn't know if they had 'medicine' or added sugar, our sample size was four in a group. Some felf better, others didn't and for some the trade off was feeling better but having side effects.

B.) For the first phase a new drug is given to people after tests are done on animals, this is done to find out if the drug is safe for humans to take. The second phase more people are given the drug to take to see if it works and to study the side effects more carefully. In the thrid trial many people are given the drug to see how well it works and if it causes problems when people take it for a long periods of time.

jm54 said...

A. During the tests wer have learned that a clinical trial is where people go in as volunteers and be tested for the medicine to see if it works. Also we learned during the lab that a placebo is a fake medicine, that doctors sometimes just use because the patients act like they feel better because it is just mental. Also the people who are given a placebo in trials are called the controls to see how they react.We laerned that there are many trade-offs to this like you could help scientist learn if you are in a trial but it could be painful.
B. Phase one is where the drug is tested to see how it works on animals and on humans its usally 2-3 months and less than 100 people.This phase is mainly used to see if the drug is safe. Phase to is to see if it is safe in people it can take a few months to a few years and has usally hundreds of people.Phase three is tested on thousands of people and is to see how many it works on and the rare side-effects. Also they see when to use it and like how much of it.

Jacob B. said...

there is always a placebo.
and there is always a tretment gruop.
and there is always a hypothsis.

Anonymous said...

A) In class we learned about clinical trials. A clinical trial is when people volunteer to test some medicines and see what effects they might have. When people come on to test the medicine they have to groups, a group that got the real deal and a group that got a placebo, a placebo is a sugar pill that does nothing to the person that takes it. It just makes them think that they took it. While testing a new medicine or any medicine you have to make sure you give everyone the same sample size or else you will get the wrong data. When making a new medicine you have to have trade off’s, A trade off is when you have to get rid of something to get something.

B) Phase 1 is making sure that the drug is safe and that people wont like die from it.
Phase 2 is making sure the drug dose what it should do and dosent cure the comman cold and not canser.

Phase 3 is when they give the drug to thousands of people to make sure it works and is a good drug to have.

kieran said...

core d kieran schwegman
A)today i've learned that a clinical trial is important for testing medicine and many other things to see if it is effective. In a clinical trial theres a control, sample size, a placebo, and sometimes a trade off. a control is what's used to compare.A sample size is how many people are in it which will help you see easier to be effective. A placebo is the fake medicine, usually a control. last but notleast a trade off, something given up for something else to be gained.